Sorry, Jeff, we were just kidding


B2B Demand Generation | When a meeting’s not what you expected.

Traveled out to Boulder, Colorado last week to visit a software company, Rally Software Development, to discuss a very senior marketing role.

Very cool company and exciting. I was well prepared and, I believe, handled everything with aplomb. I was excited. Here was a chance to show my marketing chops. And based on my extensive research, they could really use the help of the Fearless Competitor. They are a great company with great people - but content marketing has major holes in it, it seems.

Two days later I got a surprising email. I was rejected. That happens - I can understand but the excuses were lame. Vague and poorly defined.

It seemed very odd at first - the meeting had gone so well. I was not overly surprised at being rejected - it happens - but lacking anything specific on the reasons behind the rejection. They did not even contact my references. It was if it was pre-planned. Then the proverbial light bulb went on.

There was no job

My “Interview” was a joke. It was pointless. As my good friend, Jim Burns of Avitage suggested, I was undoubtedly used to validate a decision to promote an in-house person. How am I so sure? I shared my theory with them. Though they have been very responsive, they did not reply. Their lack of denial confirms it.

A tip-off was looking at one of the in-house marketing person on Linkedin. I was supposed to meet with him, then the meeting was changed. He changed his title to exactly match the role I was there to discuss. It’s clear they promoted from within - perhaps even before I arrived.

What disappoints me is not that I didn’t get the job, it is the fact that the Company did not tell me the truth. Jim said “Why couldn’t they have told you that they liked you, but the in-house person was better known and trusted?”

That really bothers me. I pride myself on honesty and openness. But as Jim said, not everyone is as open and articulate as him and me.

Good luck, Rally. Happy to consult for you by the way. I still think we could make a big difference for you.

What do you think? Have something like this ever happened to you?

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Jeff Ogden (@fearlesscomp) is President of the B2B lead generation consultancy, Find New Customers. Find New Customers helps companies dramatically improve revenue results by transforming the ways they attract and earn the trust of prospective customers. Contact Find New Customers by calling (516) 495-9350 or sending an email to sales at findnewcustomers.com.

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Calculating Your Marketing ROI


What good is that marketing spend doing for us?

More and more marketing leaders need to prove their value. They need to document the value of the lead generation programs to drive sales leads.

In the days and the weeks to come, we’ll share more about marketing metrics. It’s a very important topic, I believe.

If you approach your boss and say “Let’s crank up b2b lead generation,” she might say “Yes, that’s a good idea. But will we get a good return on our investment?“

One of Find New Customers’ clients is Aprimo. They worked with the Lenskold Group on marketing metrics, so I wish to share it with our fans.

LenskoldGroupThe Lenskold Group are experts in marketing ROI. They have a free tool to calculate the ROI of a lead generation program here. They also published a great white paper entitled the “CMO Guide to Marketing ROI” for Find New Customers client, Aprimo.

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Jeff Ogden is President of Find New Customers “Lead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.” Find New Customers is one of few lead generation companies in New York. Follow Jeff on Twitter at @fearlesscomp.

Find New Customers helps companies like yours (with 50 to 5,000 employees and complex products) implement lead generation programs to improve the way you find and acquire high quality sales leads using best practices in online lead generation. Quality leads matter. In fact, a recent study found that sales teams with fewer, high quality sales leads closed more than sales teams with more leads of dubious quality.

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